CNET Live: January 8, 2009 Video

CNET Live: January 8, 2009 Video Transcript

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>>Welcome to CNET Live, live from Las Vegas its CES 2009. I'm Tom Merritt

>>I'm Molly Wood

>>I am Brian Tong

>>Tom: Hey, you made it

>>Brian: I just ran in from the floor.

>>Tom: Man, that is a big Las Vegas convention center, isn't it.

>>Molly: It is.

>>Brian: My heart is thumpin, my heart is thumpin.

>>Tom: Yeah, he just ran like the length of 100 football fields to get here. If you're one of those picky people it's like, you're a minute late.

>>Brian: I'm here in the flesh.

>>Molly: That's right.

>>Brian: I'm ready to roll.

>>Molly: He just discovered that it takes 20 minutes to take anywhere that you go. Ok so we are, this is the first of two special CNET Live episodes. We're going to be covering all of the latest and greatest electronics that we've seen on the show floor. Nothin small about what we're doing here, uh huh.

>>Tom: Although [inaudible] might be a tiny small. We'll get to that later on.

>>Molly: Yes, that is true.

>>Tom: We won't be taking calls on the special edition here but we will be taking some audience questions so for anybody in the audience if you think of a question you want to ask whether it's about CES or just tech in general, look for Charlotte, she'll be the one roaming around with the microphone and flag her down and we'll let you know when we get to that part to take those questions. And of course you can email us as always CNETlive@cnet.com.

>>Brian: Ok guys we and dozens of CNET editors have been crawling, I've been crawling literally you'll see, the show floor and nearby hotel meeting rooms and we'll show you some of the best gadgets that we've seen and products you may see on store shelves later this year and beyond. Now we already have a dozen product reviews. I've got a few favorites that I'll be sharing but first let's take you to the show floor. CES opened a couple of hours ago. Like you guys know I snuck into central hall and this is what I found. [background music] Brian Tong here at the consumer electronic show in Las Vegas. You might have heard of it. It's called CES 2009. Well everybody is getting set up. People are on their cell phones talking but this is my chance to have a little fun during the calm before the storm so let's go. [music] Alright the buses are here, people are piling out. They want to get to the lobby and get ready to jump onto the show floor. Enjoy the show. ^M00:02:12 [ Music ] ^M00:02:24

>>Brian: At CES you have a lot of booths with dancers but this ain't regular dancers this is America's best dance crews, Fanny Pack is doing their thing. Just another hot thing here at CES. [background music] You guys want to make sure all of your equipment works right. You also have to be really prepared here at CES, there's a lot of germs. ^M00:02:43 [ Music ] ^M00:02:49

>>[background music] Oh wow thanks. That is so clean. It's like, oh ok. Oh my gosh, guys. There are celebrities everywhere. Look, look its Walt Mossberg, Walt I love you. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Now you also have to follow the crowd so I don't know who they are or what's going on but just shoot it anyways. Wow technology has advanced so much that things like this even look real. [music] Now things are so hectic here at CES, people are getting set up, I had to park my car right here. Plug this up for me, ok? Thanks. Alright guys they have opened up the doors here at CES 2009. Can't wait for a great show and remember stick with us here at CNET.com for all that great coverage. [music]

>>Molly: We put Brian Tong on the running, jumping and falling down.

>>Brian: I actually get paid to do that. [laughter]

>>Tom: You were inspired by the Fanny Pack crew, right?

>>Brian: Yeah, you know, got a little music in there.

>>Tom: Did Walt ever wave back?

>>Brian: No he totally rejected me.

>>Molly: He does that. The central hall is definitely where everything is at other than our stage, of course, which is located in the south hall.

>>Brian: There's a lot of action in there.

>>Molly: Bringing maximum awesomeness to the south hall.

>>Brian: Uh huh, uh huh but I guess one of the cool things that I saw, you know one of the booths that I really enjoyed, if you guys have a chance you guys gotta go check out Panasonic's little booth. We're gonna show you some of that with their 3D technology and also in the Samsung booth you can get a coke but in a very special way.

>>Molly: I noticed your super cool bottle there.

>>Brian: It's a touch screen vending machine. Go check it out. It's hot.

>>Molly: And of course everybody, at least hopefully after our show, is going to be headed over to the Palm booth because they have their big announcement today. We're gonna have some people on later in the show to talk about that.

>>Tom: Pre or is it pra

>>Molly: Or is it pre because of Treo? Anyway there was a whole day of announcements before we even got to Palm. Yesterday all day I was running around between press conferences including one where Elvis dropped off a remote control. It was a little weird.

>>Brian: Wow [laughter] ^M00:05:04 [ Music ] ^M00:05:14

>>Hi. I'm Molly Wood from CNET.com here at CES 2009. It is press day this year so I've been attending press conferences galore from the likes of LG, Samsung, Audiovox and Toshiba. Already the trends are very clear, [background siren] thin designs, internet connected televisions and energy efficiency. ^M00:05:32 [ Music ] ^M00:05:39

>>[background music] Toshiba will introduce new TV [inaudible], LCD TV/DVD combos and network players that infiltrate platforms from Intel, Yahoo and Microsoft. Toshiba's innovative network devices will bring [inaudible] such as stream video downloadable movies, recorded TV shows and even internet TV through one device. ^M00:06:09 [ Music ] ^M00:06:22

>>A small acoustic research remote that can control multiple devices including Apple TV, iPod docking units, the television and home audio. They work right out of the box with one remote setup controlling thousands of devices without the need to go online setup. The advance code library from UEI is built right into the remote so you just tell it what brand of devices you've got and you're ready to go.

>>Molly: There you have it, greener, thinner and streaming more and more. For CNET.com I'm Molly Wood coming at you from CES 2009. ^M00:06:58 [ Music ] ^M00:07:03

>>Tom: Have we seen fewer people because there are all those stats about fewer exhibitors, a little bit smaller square footage and possibly fewer attendees.

>>Molly: Yeah, I have definitely noticed fewer people, certainly yesterday at press day it was kind of a ghost town around the CES floor which frankly was awesome that lines were shorter and there were fewer people but the cabbies have been complaining and then I hear that there's an entire chunk of show floor space where the map shows booths and then when you get there there's tumbleweeds and wooden boxes.

>>Brian: We ran across that when we were trying to find some booths yesterday. So they've moved them because it's basically an empty, dead space. Alright

>>Tom: Well I think the definitive indicator of this is the men's room had no line.

>>Brian: That was yesterday. Try now.

>>Tom: No today, today earlier. [laughter]

>>Molly: That's how it always is in the woman's room and so yes that's kinda nice, actually.

>>Brian: Ok guys I've got to show you this cool 3D home theatre I was talking about from Panasonic. It made me laugh. I was so giddy. Just take a look. [music] Brian Tong with CNET.com here at CES 2009 and we're here in a theatre but this is not like any other. This is Panasonic's 3D full HD home theatre system. Now it takes a lot of elements to make this happen. I've never been in something like this. So what you'll need is a plasma display that can actually display the 3D images and you'll also need a Blue-ray disk that's been specifically made to carry all this content. They've actually worked really closely with James Cameron and I'm super excited to try this. I have a pair of 3D glasses and I'm just gonna see what this thing look like, alright. [music] You can see each individual person, like each person is 3 dimensional in this thing. You guys you can't see what I'm seeing here but with previous 3D it's shot with two cameras but the information couldn't be held on a disc to give you the full resolution that you see and with Blue-Ray they're able to pack that for both the left eye and right eye in full HD. You can see every single person as an individual piece. It feels like you're there. [laughter] This is just like the Olympics. This is gross. There you have it the Panasonic 3D Full AC home theatre. I came to CES to see ridiculous things. I'm so happy I'm here. I don't think I'll see anything better. There you have it. [ Music ]

>>Brian: [laughter] This is ridiculous. This is fun.

>>Tom: You seem pretty jazzed by that.

>>Brian: Obviously people here are not wowed because they're like that's not 3D but if I was looking at the crowd and we shot right now each of you would have your own 3D playing eye. It was bonkers. Audience members all the way down there. Everyone was there own person.

>>Tom: Would you call that your favorite thing you've seen so far?

>>Brian: Yeah, I don't think I'll see anything better than that here at CES.

>>Molly: Like ever?

>>Brian: Cause you think 3D is like corny but this is real immersive 3D. It feels, I don't want to say it feels like real life but it's as close as you can imagine in ever getting so everyone in that room was blown away.

>>Molly: Really, that's amazing. Well I haven't gotten my hands on it yet but I am super excited about the new Palm the Pre or the Pra. I kinda want to call it the Pra because that sounds more like awesome.

>>Tom: Well actually it sounds like something about to be killed and eaten.

>>Molly: Actually is sounds kind of wimpy. Ok Pre, I'll call it the Pre, like a buddy. But it seems like more of a dinosaur. Like you know we've been having all these conversations about how this was Palm's last stand. They had to deliver with a cool operating system and cool hardware and at least from the early coverage that I've seen I have to say it looks cool. I mean I'm very excited about the LG watch phone but I'm super excited because I feel like Palm might have been resurrected a little bit today.

>>Tom: Well a couple of technologies that got me thinking anyway and I still haven't got to the booth to hear them but the psycho 5.1 surround sound headphones put five speakers on top of your head, [laughter] they're miniature speakers and they're precisely positioned and they use delay the natural delay of where they're positioning is to create the surround sound.

>>Brian: And did they look precisely dorky?

>>Molly: You do have to wear it on your head. I think we're gonna see it later on.

>>Tom: We have the video later on.

>>Brian: I'll be the judge of that, I'll be the judge of that.

>>Tom: If it sounds great while you're playing your PC gaming, I do not care. [laughter] It's time for a quick break. Brian, you're going to return at the top of the hour?

>>Brian: Yes sir.

>>Tom: So go, you know, you've worked hard here. Take a break.

>>Brian: Oh, thank you. [laughter]

>>Tom: Natalie DelConte is coming up. We've got Drew Carey live here with us as well as more of the coolest products and highlights from the CES keynote last night from Steve Bomber and the LG watch phone everybody's talking about. All that and more, see you in less than a minute. ^M00:11:37 [ Music ] ^M00:12:13

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>>Molly: Welcome back to CNET live from the CES stage, our stage at CES 2009. We've been taking a look at some of the best gadgets that we've seen so far from the show floor, from the press conferences and first up we have got to show you a product that nearly caused a riot at the LG press conference. I was there. [music]

>>Hey folks Brian Cooley here at CES 2009 with Nathan Friedman from LG but I like to call him Dick Tracy because he has the thing we've always waited for in the tech industry, the wristwatch that does it all. In this case it's the watch phone from LG. So super secret and so fresh and cool, I'm not even allowed to touch it. It has to stay on his wrist. You gotta like that. Now check it out. Really nice high res colored screen and it's a touch screen also. If you look at it you'll see there's a media player, a whole bunch of other features you'd expect from I think the class that we'd call rich media phones. How does it work? Well you dial with the touch screen and I was kind of skeptical, what are the buttons like, are they doable? Nathan's gonna actually pull up the dialing screen here and we'll see. You don't need a stylus, I thought you would have. But it appears that with a finger you're able to get those buttons and do so with enough accuracy to actually dial. Now this thing is loaded up with features, I'm not allowed to touch it. It's got Bluetooth and Bluetooth stereo streaming, you've got voice recognition to speak commands to it, also text to speak so it can audio play messages that come in, things of that nature. As I mentioned you've got a media player in there. That screen, by the way is 1.43 inches in diagonal size and it's used in that portrait mode as you see. But again clarity is everything so to my eye it's pretty usable even though it's rather small. The downside for us here in the US is there are no plans for US distribution just yet but it will be hitting the European market late this year. They gotta bring it here. Again that's the LG watch phone seen here for the first time at CES 2009, I'm Brian Cooley. [music] [beep] I'm not even allowed to touch it.

>>Tom: [laughter] We should make clearer that the watch does not come with the man.

>>Molly: No, you have to buy the dude. It's kind of a letdown. It was buried in the fine print of the press release notes.

>>Tom: The feeding and carrying of the watch, price goes way up when you include the guy.

>>Molly: The deal with the watch I guess is that it came literally off the plane from Korea, went straight to the LG press conference, they hadn't gotten a chance to really play with all the features in public yet and so they wouldn't let anyone touch it. Like everyone who, almost everyone who played with it had to have the guy

>>Tom: Well, now wait a minute. That's the story they gave us when they showed up and Cooley was doing it but then suddenly Natalie DelConte was on CBS early show this morning wearing it on her own wrist.

>>Molly: I know.

>>Tom: No guy around. I think they were excuse making when they went with Cooley.

>>Molly: She's really cute.

>>Tom: She only got it for 30 seconds, that was it and then the, you know jaws of life collapsed upon her and took it back.

>>Molly: It's so funny because a bunch of companies have tried to do the watch phone thing before, the smart watch thing never really took off but that, when that thing was announced at that press conference people just went crazy like there was something just really fundamentally awesome about it.

>>Tom: My question with this is do you want your phone in here or do you want it in that Smartphone device that everybody's gonna be carrying around because it's got your PDA and your music and your videos and everything else in it.

>>Molly: Well maybe you have your Netbook and then you don't care because then you have your watch phone and you're fine.

>>Tom: So you don't need a smaller device at all?

>>Molly: It's not really that anyone needs the watch phone.

>>Tom: Well totally I get that. It's the coolest thing in the world. They put video on that thing and they're gonna sell a mint.

>>Molly: Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's very cool.

>>Tom: Alright last night as is tradition, Microsoft kicked off the CES keynote series but for the first time it was not Bill Gates, at least for the first time in a long time. CEO Steve Bomber delivered the CES Stevenote and there was no Steve at MacWorld. Take a look. ^M00:16:15 [ Music ] ^M00:16:23

>>Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome chief executive officer Steve Bomber. ^M00:16:30 [ Clapping and cheering ] ^M00:16:41

>>So this is CES. Well thanks. It's a real honor for me to be able to deliver this opening keynote at CES this year. It's really become something of a tradition I would say for Microsoft to deliver this opening keynote. Bill Gates did that for the first time almost 15 years ago and practically has done it every year since. With his transition this past year from day to day activities at Microsoft, since this is my first time at CES I've gotta admit I've gotten a lot of advice and a lot of questions. I thought I'd share with you just a few of the messages I've gotten today. They come from quite an eclectic group. But from Bill Gates, Bill said, make sure, Steve, you're at CES not that other convention in Las Vegas [laughter]. And I don't understand the one from Jerry Yang but he said why do you keep ignoring my friend request on Facebook? I'm ready though and I'm here. At Microsoft we're continuing to drive innovation to really make a difference in people's lives. And it's in this context tonight that I want to spend some time with you talking about the economy, our industry and the work we are doing at Microsoft as a very proud member of this industry.

>>Tom: Joining us now is CNET news Maggie Reardon, you were at the keynote, correct?

>>Maggie: Yes I was

>>Tom: Thank you for joining us today.

>>Maggie: You're welcome. Thanks for having me.

>>Tom: So was it as funny in person as, and I mean was it as funny in person

>>Maggie: There were moments that were funny but you know, you know it wasn't you know that funny. [laughter] It wasn't what you would consider a big comedy show here in Vegas, you know what I'm sayin?

>>Tom: Yeah and Microsoft keynotes at CES in the past have also been a little star studded but it seems like they really didn't like pull out the stops for that either.

>>Maggie: No they didn't pull out the stops. It was all business. Just talkin about the future, where they're goin, what we can expect you know. I mean there were some interesting stuff that they were talking about.

>>Tom: What was the most interesting thing you heard?

>>Maggie: You know I kind of liked the whole idea of connecting internet to the TV and sort of this whole three screen, I know everybody's talking, I sound like a marketing person, three screens, you know, mobile

>>Tom: Right, right

>>Maggie: TV, PC, but I think it's gonna be really cool when it really happens, you know.

>>Molly: So they were pushin that but also was the headline, would you say Windows 7? I mean I know it was, they didn't unveil anything we hadn't seen in Window's 7 but they did say a Beta is here.

>>Maggie: A Beta is here and its coming and it did look pretty cool.

>>Molly: Yeah

>>Maggie: Yeah

>>Molly: Well they all look pretty

>>Maggie: They all look pretty cool until you get them and they crash. [ Laughter ]

>>Tom: Microsoft also seems to have a history of demonstrating something at CES that looks really cool like either Windows 7 or perhaps the three screen stuff and then you never end up seeing it or at least you don't see it for five to 10 years.

>>Maggie: Right and then they have a lot of bugs. [laughter]

>>Tom: Do you sense that about a lot of this?

>>Maggie: Yeah, I mean Windows 7 they've been talking about it for a while, right? We all know about it but you know like Molly said at least now there's a Beta. People can like play with it. You know I'm sure just like every other Microsoft thing it's gonna be buggy and you know maybe we'll have some problems but I think the three screen stuff is happening. I mean they were demonstrating some stuff with Xbox Live that sounded pretty cool. I'm not even a gamer but I'm like, ooh maybe I need to get an Xbox. It looked pretty neat.

>>Molly: What is the three screen vision for those who haven't read the stories and weren't at the keynote, what is the guts of that vision basically?

>>Maggie: The guts of the vision is that everything is going to be connected to the internet, right? And what I think is most cool is this whole idea of bringing the internet to your TV, you know, into your living room. And you know Steve Bomber made a, you know, a good observation when he said TV's really have not changed much other than they've gotten a whole lot thinner and the resolution's gotten a lot better but they still do the same thing. And now I think we're heading into an era where we're gonna see people interacting with their TV. You know a lot of the Xbox Live type stuff you know is interactive games. So they showed this, who wants to be a millionaire kind of game show and you're playing with lots of people. Yeah, I could just see a family sitting around you know after dinner on Thanksgiving playing the game. It's just fun stuff like that. So I think it has the potential to change how we get entertainment and how we hang out at home and what we do there.

>>Molly: Well there's no question that the internet connected TV is possibly one of the bigger trends I've seen so far at CES. At the press conferences yesterday, LG, Toshiba, Samsung, everybody, Panasonic, everyone, Vizio were saying our TV's finally, all of these years later which was kinda the surprising part, are in fact connected to the internet. We have content partnerships. Not as many as you would think but partnerships with Netflix and Yahoo Widgets. They're trying to, you know, I think it's almost five years now after Bill Gates showed off IPTV as a vision at a CES keynote that we're slowly starting to see some of that happening.

>>Maggie: Which is really, I think that's great for consumers. I mean everybody kinda was like oh there's no real wow factor here this year but I think what's good for consumers is things that we talked about five years ago are now actually coming to market and they're not gonna be crazy expensive. And so that means a good thing for everybody who wants to go out and buy something, you know. And also I think with the whole internet coming to your TV, I mean I have this vision of you know maybe I can just get rid of cable, maybe I can get rid of satellite and save some money. You know I did a story on that for news.com right before the holidays and I can't tell you the response that I got from people, I mean people were like, yeah down with Comcast, I hate them. I want to just get everything from the net, you know. And I think, you know it's not probably for everybody but I think that we're gonna see a lot more of that cause people want more options.

>>Tom: Now Windows 7 released to developers now and there's a public Beta starting Friday that up to I think I heard, was it about a million or so public Beta participants?

>>Maggie: Yeah, I think so, yeah

>>Tom: That they're gonna bring in? That says, hey they're pretty confident. They're putting it out into the public in a lot of people's hands. But then they sort of backtrack when they talk to Ina Fried and said well we'd like to have it out by the end of 2009 but we're not certain that we're gonna get there. We don't want to commit to a day.

>>Molly: Which is fine, that is fine. Get it right. I am totally, I want to be as positive as possible about that approach cause I want them to take the time to get it cause it does have potential.

>>Maggie: Well I think they've gotten beaten up quite a bit for you know you looked at Vista and so many people were complaining about problems with that that I think, I think Molly's right. They want to get it right. So we'll see.

>>Tom: Maggie thanks so much for stopping by and talking to us. We appreciate it.

>>Maggie: Yeah thanks for having me.

>>Molly: Thank you. Have a good rest of the show.

>>Tom: Maggie Reardon from CNET news. If you have the answer to this question, we're gonna take an email question.

>>Maggie: Ok [laughter]

>>Molly: She has not been briefed.

>>Maggie: I hope I have the answer. Don't be [laughter]

>>Tom: Let's see if I have the answer here, let's pull it up here. This one comes from Cory. He says, I'm in the market for a decent digital camera for personal use on vacations, holidays, special events and pretty much anything else I deem picture worthy. I've read a few reviews, checked out a few in store models but I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions in the $200 to $300 price range? So he basically is saying what's the best average, everyday, snapshot camera for the $200 to $300 price range?

>>Molly: For about that price, well I think in that price range you're always gonna be looking at the Canon Powershot line. To be clear there are some new camera announcements at CES that look very cool but in terms of that decent price and a good price range, I would say the Canon Powershot SD80IS, $250 Canon Powershot

>>Maggie: That's the one I have.

>>Molly: Oh you do?

>>Maggie: I love it.

>>Molly: You love it?

>>Maggie: Yeah

>>Molly: Excellent

>>Tom: We have the same one actually

>>Molly: And the Powershot A590IS, that's one's like $100 online right now. So pretty good deals on those and we're just generally good fans.

>>Tom: Corey, I'd say that sounds like the best shot for you the A590, you can get it for $100 bucks.

>>Molly: $100, you know it's not the smallest, sleekest looking camera I ever saw but it's not bad.

>>Maggie: Yeah, I love my Canon. And I found it on CNET reviews

>>Molly: Where all good things are found. [laughter]

>>Tom: Where could you find more CNET reviews? [laughter]

>>Molly: Alright, before we get too gross it's time to take a short break. When we come back we're gonna have more cool stuff from the floor and a little later we're gonna have Drew Carey on our very own stage. Stay tuned. [ Music ]

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>>Tom: Welcome back to CNET Live, live from Las Vegas CES 2009, Molly Wood.

>>Molly: We're having a great time up here talking about products. We've got guests coming. We've got Drew Carey coming later. I spent a little time with him earlier. But first we're having a look at another new product that is extra thin, right? Its turning heads. Panasonic had the biggest HD TV here last year at 150-inches. This year they've got one of the thinnest TV's. Brian Tong apparently got a first look

>>Tom: Thin TV's are sort of the thing. Panasonic even said that 150-inch TV is what we're bringing back again this year. First of all because it's almost impossible to ship anything any bigger but second of all size is not where it's at anymore, it's thin.

>>Molly: It is thin and so this one, big and thin. Let's have a look. [ Music ]

>>Brian: Brian Tong here with CNET at CES 2009 and what I have behind me is the future technology of Panasonic's Viera line. This is a 50-inch, 1080P display. At its thinnest point it's 8 millimeters thin. This display is thinner than this quarter. This is the thinnest display we've seen here at CES up to this point. It looks great and like we said, here at CES thin is in so there you have it, Panasonic's ultrathin display. I'm Brian Tong for CNET.com.

>>Molly: That is really pretty, you know, essentially

>>Tom: That's darn thin.

>>Molly: That is darn thin. Samsung had one too at their press conference yesterday. It was like about an inch and a half. It was interesting, at the Toshiba press conference and I'm not sure about this approach entirely, they said thin is really great but are people willing to pay for it right now? And they're not really putting that investment into it cause that TV's not gonna come cheap.

>>Tom: We talked about that on Buzz Out Loud this morning and it's sort of like its two different approaches. You know Toshiba's saying we're gonna be the ant. We're gonna save our money. We're not going to blow a lot of money on new, thin TV's when we don't think people are gonna spend them and we're gonna be laughing all the way to the end of the bank by the end of this year. We'll see.

>>Molly: Hope springs eternal. I mean they're also putting older upscale DVD players into TV's which I wonder about that strategy.

>>Tom: And green is another big trend out here and that is one that has also got an economic angle to it as well because a lot of people were into green when the economy was good and they could afford to pay maybe a little bit extra for green materials or recycling or this or that. Do you think that that's a trend that might end up getting stomped on a little bit by the economy? It doesn't seem to have been here. Everybody's touting it.

>>Molly: I know. I wondered about that too. I think actually you've got a whole other economic argument now that they're making which is the power consumption and so they're saying that even if the TV cost a little bit more, the power consumption savings are gonna be worth it. But then what you're seeing is a lot of the manufacturers who are introducing green TV's, I think that it's LG who's doing another sort of eco TV that's a lower end TV. So they're saying like you're gonna get a base model that's about $2000 and that's not cheap but it's cheaper than some of the TV's they announced. And then it's a lower end TV with a great power savings.

>>Tom: One of my favorite products at the show is not green or a TV but let's turn to it now. It is the psycho 5.1 surround sound headset. [music] Hey, I'm Tom Merritt from CNET.com here at CES 2009 taking a look at the psycho 5.1 PC gaming headset. They will be having this coming out for consoles down the road. Right now it's meant for PC gamers. It is 5.1 surround sound in your head. You've probably heard this tried before but I think this is probably one of the more brilliant approaches that I have seen. You've got the 5.1 cables here, the regular 3.5 millimeter cables and then that comes up into the headphone. The speakers are actually here in this top part. You've got your center speaker, you're front left, you're front right, you're back left and you're back right and then the subwoofers are down here in the ear cups. So that all of the speakers are on top of your head. Now how do you hear them, you might ask? These are audio conductors. They actually carry the audio through hollow tubes down to your ear and they give you the surround sound positioning by taking advantage of a natural delay. They're precisely positioned so that when a sound comes from here it will go to the right ear and the left ear but because it's on the left it's gonna hit the left ear just a little faster so you really get that feeling of having a surround sound speaker system right there in your heads. Now a funny story is James Hildebrandt, the CEO of psycho audio labs, actually came up with this idea because a friend of his wanted to play surround sound video games after his wife went to bed but he had to use the graphic speakers so he came up with this solution. I think it's pretty brilliant. I haven't gotten a chance to listen to it yet so I can't wait to swing by and give it a shot. They say it will run about $299 and they're expecting it sometime in Q2. Once again, psycho 5.1 PC gaming headset [background music] at CES 2009, I'm Tom Merritt. [ Music ]

>>Molly: Why does everything that's made for gamers have to look so dorkarama?

>>Tom: They're workin on it. That's the prototype that I was showing you, like it came hot off the plane from Calgary. Like the CEO came off the plane and brought it to the desk right here.

>>Molly: And they let you touch it.

>>Tom: They let me pick it up because they're nice people and they trust me. [laughing]

>>Molly: I'm sure they're really nice people, the watch phone people.

>>Tom: Oh, I wasn't talking about LG. I'm sure they are also nice people.

>>Molly: Oh, oh I see, subtle. It was just a dig at no one.

>>Tom: At not nice people.

>>Molly: No one. Those actually, they look very impressive.

>>Tom: Yeah and then we went to the digital experience press event last night which I thought was pretty successful. There were a lot of good companies showing things off there. I got to take a look at Nvidia's Ion system which is a reference system that they're trying to get OEM's to make. Putting an Adam processor and a Nvidia 9400 chip on a really small ITX board and they showed it having HDMI out, VGA out, a couple USB ports, Ethernet ports, saying like look you can make a computer that's this big just you know the size of a fist and the board is small enough you can make a really tiny Netbook if you want.

>>Molly: I really like that idea of that kind of geekiness coming to CES. Like it's kinda great to see like you know what, and that happens. Last year it was the bug labs concept which went interaction.

>>Tom: Yeah and they're back again. A whole set of new modules.

>>Molly: Yeah and it's great to show up and say this is what we want to happen. This is the technology that we want the future to embrace.

>>Tom: Also the All-In-One Router from D-Link which has a picture frame built into it which to me is a disservice cause it makes people like me wanna go, oh forget it. I don't want a picture frame in my router. But it's actually a decent router. It's an 802 11N Router with two USB ports on the back for a print server. It's not a bad little piece of machinery.

>>Molly: Are they trying to make it less scary for people?

>>Tom: I think that's the idea is that they're trying to sell to people who wouldn't buy a router.

>>Molly: With the internet on it.

>>Tom: Yeah exactly. And you can hook up RSS feeds to the picture frame so you can feed like dynamic pictures to it but like the people that buy the picture frames are they the people that set up RSS feeds?

>>Molly: Yeah, I don't know.

>>Tom: I'm not so certain about that.

>>Molly: I actually, I was sort of geekin out on the new Logitech Harmony 1100. I think it's not super new. It wasn't necessarily announced here but it's their high end remote control. Cause once in a while at CES, I know the economy's down but sometimes you just have to fantasize about the $500 remote with optional $99 RF transmitter

>>Tom: Why not?

>>Molly: Or adaptor cause it has RF built in but it can only control RF capable devices and then you have to get this add on for $99 bucks but it's much smaller than I would have thought. I always imagined those sort of high end touch screen universal remotes

>>Tom: Being like as big as this laptop screen.

>>Molly: Yeah just huge and dorky. I think Bose makes one that has to sit on a stand in the middle of the room. Like come on, it's not art, it's a remote control. This thing looks pretty slick and easy to use.

>>Tom: Now we're gonna take some audience questions so anybody who's got a question just head right over to Charlotte here. She's got the microphone, wave her over. Don't be shy.

>>Molly: It looks like we have one.

>>Tom: Yeah, good. I don't have to talk about the next boring product that I saw yesterday. [laughter] Yes sir.

>>Hi Tom and Molly. Steve Meyer from Indianapolis with a company called Cricket Technologies and we're green, eco friendly and we're gonna revolutionize the trade show industry with a when you go by a booth point and click and

>>Tom: You're not gonna take down our monitor's are you?

>>No. I just go like this and that and you'll take the information down.

>>Tom: Ok so you're recording.

>>Well it will take everything down. You're business card and everything else and will go right to the next booth and you can go through the whole CES show in a matter of hours versus a matter of days.

>>Molly: Now is there a question? I do have to ask you if there's a question.

>>The question is this is

>>Molly: Don't you think this is awesome?

>>awesome and we're gonna have this next year and we'll revolutionize CES

>>Tom: So this is a product pitch, isn't it? Fair enough.

>>Molly: Alright, you can't do anymore of that.

>>So green means go and green means cricket.

>>Tom: We got anybody else in the audience with a question for the CNET Live audience? Thank you, Steve, appreciate it. Alright let's go to an email question then, we've got one from Miles. I have a custom built PC and it just recently stopped working. I think it's my graphics card since my monitor says out of range whenever I start it up. Yeah that's probably a card or something

>>Molly: Oh, I've had that problem.

>>Tom: I've had that problem too.

>>Molly: Sometimes it's just a cable.

>>Tom: Sometimes it's the monitor cable, yeah

>>Molly: Usually

>>Tom: It's a 1.6 gigahertz machine with Vista ultimate. My question is, is there a good desktop or laptop for under $400? Should I get a new computer or not? Miles, I'm thinkin if you're going under $400 you're probably talking about either a Netbook or some kind of minimal PC. With 1.6 gigahertz you can definitely get a faster machine than that.

>>Molly: Yeah I think he'll do ok but I would urge him to try, if the reason that he is looking for a new PC is that he's getting an out of range problem with his monitor, I would urge him to replace the monitor cable before he spends $400 bucks on a new PC.

>>Tom: Well if it is a removable cable. Now a lot of the older monitors didn't have a removable cable so then you gotta talk about bringing it in for repair and at that point if you can get a, he's got the right price point here. If you can buy a computer for under $400 it might be worth it.

>>Molly: And I think you probably can. HP has some desktops that are around that price, Dell. I will tell you, keep your eyes on my favorite website in the world, slickdeals.net because every day they've just got a list of hot deals and almost always there's always some kind of desktop deal in there that's $400 or $500.

>>Tom: Every once in a while Woot will come up with a Netbook or a mini PC of some sort that you might want to take a look at.

>>Molly: I have to say, I am lovin the Netbook thing. Like it's not, I know that I have one of the better keyboard sizes, the HP mini 1000 but just the weight and the portability is phenomenal. I love it.

>>Tom: Alright, unless we have any other questions from the audience, help and how to questions or product questions, shopping questions, anything like that. We got one here from Robert, do you promise it's not a product pitch? He doesn't promise anything, great.

>>Molly: [laughter] You're in trouble now.

>>I was curious to get your opinion on the new solid state drives that are starting to come out.

>>Tom: You mean, like the size of them or whether they're better than hard drives?

>>Both

>>Tom: Ok. I like the size of them because they're getting huge and they're getting to a point where I could see myself actually buying a Netbook because it can come in 128 gigabytes or 500 gigabytes. The speed issue is one I haven't settled down on yet because they're faster in so many tests but in some of my day to day use I haven't noticed, in fact they feel a little sluggish. And when I say day to day use obviously I use you know a regular hard drive in every day but when I've tried different Netbooks like Natalie has one or Molly or just other's around, they always tend to feel like they're a little bit laggy. I don't know if that's the drive or not though.

>>Does yours have a solid state drive, Molly?

>>Molly: I didn't get the solid state drive, no. I actually went with the standard hard drive because I felt like the solid state drive right now all the testing seems to indicate that they're slightly faster but not super faster and so that to me that doesn't make up the price delta right now. They're getting cheaper and they're getting bigger but it's something that I would wait on until the price is pretty comparable. They're very cool but I don't know that they're worth it right now.

>>Tom: There's also and maybe this is something that will end up not being a big deal but there's an end of life to a flash drive. It will not last forever. And a hard drive has a sort of an end of life but I've got hard drives from 1988 that still run and I've had others that last less than a year and crash out so you know it sort of averages out but I feel like a hard drive is a little better bet to last longer.

>>Molly: That's a really good point. I don't want my computer to become as disposable as my iPod shuffle, yeah so you know, we're lukewarm on those. Thanks, good question.

>>Tom: Appreciate your question. Do we have time to squeeze in one more? We've got one more audience question over here on this side. We do have time, ok excellent. You're in.

>>Molly: Ok thanks. We decided we had time.

>>Thanks. Mark Johnson from Germantown, Maryland.

>>Tom: Hey Mark

>>I was just curious when do you expect to start seeing US 3.0 devices hit the consumer market?

>>Molly: I have been hearing 2010 for USB3 and I don't, maybe that's just because 2010 seems to be the year in which everything good will happen.

>>Tom: That's 2 years before the end of the universe.

>>Molly: Oh yeah so you might as well get the good stuff now. That is all I have heard. I've heard nothing specific about that but I think, isn't there some standard ratification that still had to happen

>>Tom: There was a big press release yesterday about USB3.0 will save us all and it's gonna be faster and it's going into devices now.

>>Molly: Right but not until 2010. This whole year is all, you know, you can buy USB2.0 devices safely through all of 2009, I would say. Maybe middle of 2010. If they say they're going into devices now that means like a year.

>>Tom: You know that's the thing with those kind of announcements, if they say 2010 then they probably mean 2012 and maybe we'll see it 2011 then. Would that be a safe bet?

>>Molly: Actually I don't think it's that far off. I think it's a year away but I don't think it's as far off as like

>>Tom: That feels about right actually.

>>Molly: Yeah that would make sense. Alright it looks like I am being told in the magic ear that it is time to take a break. When we come back, Drew Carey is here, stick around. ^M00:40:14 [ Silence ] ^M00:40:27 [ Music ] ^M00:40:32

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>>Molly: Welcome back to CNET Live. We are live from CES 2009 and we are very excited to welcome to our stage a fellow geek and also the host of the Price is Right [laughter] Drew Carey.

>>Drew: Hi everybody, how you doin? Nice to see you.

>>Molly: Thank you so much for comin on. Yeah [clapping]

>>Drew: I forgot to take my badge off. It's all tangled with all my wires.

>>Tom: Well that's just to prove how you're really here for the show.

>>Molly: You're hard core

>>Drew: Yeah exactly

>>Molly: I heard them say earlier that you watch CNET TV and you're like the kind of person who wears one of those around so clearly a big fan of our stuff.

>>Drew: Yes

>>Molly: I was thinkin

>>Drew: If you've carried out a love affair by text, you're at the right place. [laughter]

>>Tom: Show of hands, how many have carried a love affair

>>Drew: Love affair by text >Tom: Yeah that one went up quick

>>Drew: Who's excited to finally meet their best friend face to face? Anybody?

>>Molly: What if it's just a love affair with text?

>>Drew: Yeah that's ok, that's fine. Sure.

>>Molly: Is that ok? I can still watch CNET TV? So we walked around the floor earlier and I know you had a chance to tour sort of the rest of all the acreage, well A are your dogs barkin?

>>Drew: Yeah, I'm ok. I wore my comfortable walking shoes. It was real exciting. The most exciting thing was the 3D. That was the cool thing.

>>Molly: That's what I've heard actually. Our Brian Tong, one of our editors got a look at it. He about passed out.

>>Drew: Yeah it was great. I don't know how they do, do you, the footage doesn't have to be shot at 3D right? They can just take any old TV footage, does it have to be in HD to convert it to 3D?

>>Molly: I don't, as far as I understand that's the deal with the new 3D magic is they're trying to take just regular old content

>>Drew: I was thinking could you watch like, Ben-Hur, with Charlton Heston in 3D with this technology?

>>Molly: I don't know.

>>Drew: Cause that would be cool.

>>Molly: Isn't that what the Nvidia glasses are supposed to do?

>>Tom: No, the Nvidia glasses you have to actually have the game designed to give you a dual image on the screen and then they turn it in. But these other 3D's they can adapt. I think you can shoot for it as I understand it and it makes it better but they can go back and like figure out how to add some 3D notes.

>>Drew: If anybody really smart is watching this if you can figure out a way to convert like Ben-Hur and all those like action movies into 3D. That would be great man.

>>Tom: It's a Wonderful Life.

>>Drew: Like I was telling somebody like did everybody see the silent version of Ben- Hur that came out in 1918, 1919? It's fantastic, right? Better than the Charlton Heston one. The action is better. They built like a 100 acre you know circus maximus to have the chariot race. They rebuilt Roman Dreams for the ocean battles. They hired people that didn't like each other to do the fighting, like fascist and anti fascist.

>>Molly: I don't understand.

>>Drew: One of the boats during the filming caught fire and you could see footage of extra's jumping to safety and fleeing for their lives off the ship. It's very exciting.

>>Tom: That's brilliant. What they could do before piracy.

>>Drew: Yeah but now it's all CGI. But if you could watch that, if they could find a way to take these old movies and you could watch them in 3D.

>>Molly: It would be astounding. 3D is huge here so that's

>>Drew: Watching sports in 3D was great on that screen.

>>Molly: Oh yeah. The Holy Grail though, no glasses right? You had to wear glasses there

>>Drew: Oh, I thought you were talking about me. The Holy Grail, no glasses

>>Molly: No, no, no

>>Drew: No glasses, yeah that would be fantastic [laughter]

>>Molly: No earlier you didn't have your glasses on and Tom didn't recognize you. They're really important.

>>Drew: I wear bifocals so I need them most of the time. Eighty percent of the day I'm wearing my glasses. But yeah, if you could do it without the glasses that'd be cool.

>>Molly: Yeah although it seems like its fine with, it's stunning enough.

>>Tom: The glasses are getting a little cooler. I mean they're not the little red and blue dots anymore.

>>Drew: I predict by the time the end of the Universe gets here, 2012, cause that's not until December. CNET's in the summer so we'll have like an 8 month lead time before the end of the world on December 21, 2012. Well be able to have blinged out glasses. Glasses with a phone built in so you can watch 3D while you're on the phone, I predict.

>>Molly: I could see that becoming a huge thing, the personalized 3D glasses. You carry them everywhere

>>Drew: It will be like the phone watch that nobody can see how it works. [laughter] I saw the famous phone watch today and the guy kept on covering it up like this and he'd go, doo ta doot, look what it can do, doo ta doot, look what it can do and I go, what are you doing? And he goes, I'm not allowed to show you on camera

>>Molly: What?

>>Drew: Yeah cause it's not out yet

>>Molly: Oh for crying out loud. We're really, we're gonna do a show about that.

>>Drew: Are you excited about the wrist phone?

>>Molly: I weirdly am excited about the watch phone.

>>Drew: Anybody here excited about the wrist phone, like really?

>>Molly: Come on people, solidarity

>>Drew: Look, what kind of watch you wearing now? It's a nice watch.

>>Molly: It looks shiny

>>Drew: It's a what? Citizen watch, eco drive right? Tells great time. Now would you rather have that nice pretty eco watch, citizen or this big clunky thing.

>>Tom: If it's covered.

>>Drew: It is covered yeah and you wear sunglasses and a hood so we don't know what you look like?

>>Molly: This watch didn't look that bad.

>>Drew: If you saw the watch with the big like double sized Motorola thing you could wear in your ear. [laughter]

>>Tom: You've seen the old spot watches and the old calculator watches and that sort of thing, this thing is much an improvement on that. They've got a touch screen you know.

>>Drew: That's what it reminds me of.

>>Tom: They've shrunk it down a little

>>Drew: It's so big and it's so clunky.

>>Tom: It's a Bill Clinton watch.

>>Drew: You're like, hey look at my watch.

>>Molly: It's definitely not, I mean that is definitely a guy gadget. That is the one frustration because I thought, oh that's so exciting and cool but

>>Drew: It would be cool if it was unobtrusive. But it really is the kind of thing where if you showed up with it you've have to tell everybody, it's a phone and a watch at the same time. You'd have to introduce yourself like that

>>Molly: That's why it's so ugly.

>>Drew: or else people would look at you like what's that insane thing on your wrist?

>>Tom: But you've gotta have a Bluetooth headset, right. I don't know, is it crazier to walk around talking to yourself on a headset or is it crazier to be holding your watch up?

>>Drew: I'll say it right on CNET, I don't care who knows. The Bluetooth things in your ear, they've gotta go. Nobody is wearing them here, I applaud you. But you look like a total geek, it's just, it's a bad look.

>>Molly: And I don't know

>>Drew: That would be like having a Palm Pilot under your belt.

>>Molly: Our producer would like to know what do you like? [laughter]

>>Drew: I like a lot, I like the 3D was great. You know, I think the next generation if the wrist phone takes off like the next generation could be smaller, like a citizen size or a normal watch size and I think that the Bluetooth things will get more discreet, you know so you can wear a thing that's more like a hearing aid size thing.

>>Tom: Or an implant

>>Drew: Yeah, oh wouldn't that be great. Right out of the book of Revelations, everybody. [laughter] Carry the number 666 in your head and your hands, everywhere you go.

>>Molly: Or yeah if it goes to glasses and you have Bluetooth capability built into sunglasses I think that would be pretty good.

>>Tom: Now you've been around the show for a little bit. What's the favorite thing you've seen so far?

>>Drew: Around here?

>>Tom: Yeah

>>Drew: I like all the, well honestly some little gadgets I saw, little tiny remote control cars that were fun. The 3D stuff was great. A lot of people I noticed have flip phone killers out, everybody I saw that had their flip phone looking thing call it their flip phone killer.

>>Molly: Video

>>Drew: Yeah, so if I was flip phone I'd be like, I don't know what I'd be thinkin.

>>Tom: You'd be feeling threatened.

>>Molly: What's your favorite device personally, what kind of gadgets do you own?

>>Drew: My iPhone is my favorite thing.

>>Molly: Yeah me too.

>>Drew: I use my iPhone the most.

>>Tom: What do you use most on the iPhone? Because it's different for different people.

>>Drew: Texting and email. I do all texting and email on it.

>>Molly: Do you ever buy some apps? Are you like nine pages of apps, or no?

>>Drew: I'll show you what I have.

>>Molly: Ah excellent

>>Drew: I have it right here in my pocket.

>>Molly: An expose

>>Tom: You've got a nice case going on.

>>Molly: That case is beautiful.

>>Drew: Like first of all these are like colorforms, you know those colorform dolls you had when you were a kid

>>Tom: It's a skin, yeah

>>Drew: So it peels off really easily, see there and then you can peel it back on, it just sticks. Then you can save them and wash them and put a new skin on and it sticks to the dashboard so it doesn't fall off or like any surface so it's not slipping around all the time and let me have my, punch my passcode in so my celebrity phone numbers don't get stolen

>>Tom: Be sure to get that on camera

>>Drew: I have OmniFocus I use all the time. I have Ichoki, [assumed spelling] Enigmo

>>Tom: What's Ichoki?

>>Drew: Ichoki is, this is really fun. It's this little guy, you can put a face on it. This is the face of my second life avatar, hi how you doin?

>>Tom: Now I know why you were making fun of the watch so much.

>>Drew: You can make this guy jump around and move around and dance to music when the music is on. And then you can do this to him and

>>Molly: Ohhh

>>Tom: Now we'll see how good that colorform is

>>Molly: He's still dancing

>>Drew: I dropped my iPhone

>>Molly: The little dudes still goin

>>Drew: He's still goin. You can bring him up here

>>Tom: Nothing stops ichoki

>>Drew: Where's the pin? The pin's down here. I don't know where the pin is but he dances around and the three year old loves it, if your bored at the airport. That's all it does is this guy dancing around. And you can put any face you want on it. You can put your bosses face on there. I have flight status, mobile news, price is right game of course,

>>Molly: Of course, we all have that.

>>Drew: Knots is a fun game, football, to keep up with soccer scores, you know. I don't even have a whole page.

>>Molly: I know, I don't either.

>>Tom: Do you use it much for music or videos or anything?

>>Drew: I watch some videos on it like I'll download a Nightline or something like that so when I'm eating I can prop it up against the ketchup you know and watch it cause it's like an hour.

>>Molly: It's a pretty, I think the iPhone is very underappreciated as a parenting tool. I recently flew with my toddler and we loaded that thing up with TV and movies and just were like, here you go.

>>Drew: Yeah and if you were smart, you were a parent, you would be like this and a couple of touches you would just like load up the movies and that's what you do when you're traveling with a kid. But yeah I use this more than any other gadget. And I play Wii all the time and I love Xbox.

>>Tom: You know I saw a gadget this morning you might be interested for the Wii. Do you know the guys that did the wireless nunchuck so you didn't have to have the wire go in between them? They're coming out with a special version of the wand that will connect to a gun and translate the buttons into the peripheral. So you don't have to have that crazy mechanical thing going on where you had to have a lever when you wanted to put it into a gun and play a gun game. It will actually just it will turn the trigger into the A button

>>Drew: Oh that's nice

>>Tom: Yeah so it's a lot more, you know, colt 45 sort of form factor.

>>Drew: Oh that's good. Anything that teaches you how to use a gun and kill people [laughter]

>>Tom: On the happy, fun Nintendo Wii of all places. [laughter]

>>Molly: I play Mario Kart. I don't know what game you play.

>>Drew: Hooray, more violence, woo that's good. [laughter]

>>Molly: I like Tank.

>>Tom: You don't like Duck Hunt or anything like that?

>>Molly: I'm super into Mario Kart and Tank so I'm totally nerdy.

>>Drew: I Wii bowl, I'm a Wii bowler and I'm a 1200 pro level Wii bowler

>>Tom: Sweet

>>Drew: On my way to 13. It's a slog once you get up there cause they only give you like 20 points or 15 points for a 180 score so it's

>>Molly: I would not know that. I am not good.

>>Drew: harder. Somebody knows that's watching this.

>>Molly: Somebody out there is a really good Wii bowler.

>>Tom: I'm curious to know, what's the one gadget that you wish you could get that nobodies made yet or maybe is being developed here and we don't even know about it?

>>Drew: How about a watch phone that looks like a normal watch? [laughter]

>>Tom: Ok we got that one.

>>Drew: How about an implanted Bluetooth thing in your head?

>>Molly: I must have a distorted perception field based on all the like big Bluetooth watches and things that I've seen. Cause I really, I saw that watch phone and I was like, that is not that bad.

>>Drew: Pretty sleek, no, I don't know

>>Tom: Technology and watches just does not have a long or storied history of design.

>>Molly: I know. I don't know why there's so much buzz about that, maybe it's just me.

>>Tom: The bar is very low for that.

>>Drew: It's like one of those things, my mom worked at a school in Cleveland and she was a school secretary and her boss got on the news. I remember she came home and she was real excited her boss was on the news because he bought the one of the first digital watch you could buy in Cleveland and he got on the news. I don't know if you remember but you had to like press a button. Like you couldn't be in the sun because it would wash out because of the red

>>Tom: Was it Armitron or something like that?

>>Drew: I don't know. It was like 7 grand. It was like really expensive.

>>Molly: Really?

>>Drew: Yeah they were like ridiculously expensive when they first came out. Woo its digital and they had those ugly red numbers on it. And then honestly like a year and a half later they were giving them away with cartons of cigarettes. That's what, it's really cool, I'm not trying to, its a cool looking watch.

>>Tom: You're not advocating smoking either to get one

>>Drew: Yeah and it has one, you know, you can like, like an iPhone you can just go like that and it will change pages and up and down. So it's like for geekin out you can't beat it but you have to really be like comfortable with your geek self and not ashamed of it like you know, while you have your electronic shirt that like does the

>>Tom: Your Scotty vest

>>Drew: Yeah, when you have all that and wear that watch, nobodies gonna say a thing about it. You'll be so happy.

>>Molly: Those are my people, those are my people.

>>Tom: You gotta own it.

>>Drew: If you put, World of Warcraft on it that would be cool. I'm waiting for something like, you know what would be cool?

>>Tom: You play Warcraft?

>>Drew: My friend plays about 20 hours, I'm on Second Life all the time. I have about 20 islands in Second Life.

>>Tom: Wow, no kidding. That's some serious islanding

>>Drew: It's ridiculous

>>Tom: You're a magnet

>>Molly: You better not cast that many stones on those Scotty vest people.

>>Drew: Yeah you know that little tiny, that ran Windows Vista on it? If they could make like that size thing that you could serious play World of Warcraft without any delay in the way the screen's refresh and stuff and second life without crashing, anything actually second life without crashing would be good. Especially World of Warcraft like that would be great. If I could like sit on a bus or train or while I'm waiting for a plane and like log on remotely and play Second Life and World of Warcraft and stuff I think that would be a really good, that's gonna be really, that'll be great. Like when 4G is out and you'll be able to get on there with that kind of power that they're building in and do that kind of thing mobily without having to be at home, that would be a big break through.

>>Tom: Well the video ion

>>Molly: I was just gonna say, 4G plus that video

>>Tom: There's like a lot of power in there. You get 4G and you put it in a Netbook sort of factor with maybe YMAX or something, yeah. It's in the offing. It's not too far away.

>>Drew: Yes it's not too far away but I think we're right on the, right almost to the tipping point, when that happens that's gonna be just fantastic cause then you're getting to the point where you're wearing like a screen over your head just walkin around like in the Sci Fi movies.

>>Molly: I thought we'd see a little more of that sort of virtual reality stuff here but maybe they're saving it for 2010 when all good things happen.

>>Drew: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with virtual reality but you know maybe something about just sitting home in your pajamas doing it is different than you know, being at the bus stop with people around, don't bother me. I'm playing World of Warcraft.

>>Tom: That's always the thing about using gadgets in public. You're like, oh wait. They're watching.

>>Drew: We have people who use like a Playstation, you know, the portable ones with their gaming and stuff when there are people around. It's kind of rude. It's like

>>Molly: Soon we will all embrace our inner geek publicly

>>Tom: Well unfortunately we have to take off. We could sit here and talk all day. This is great.

>>Drew: I have free price is right shirts. If anybody wants one here Price of Rights shirts for everybody.

>>Molly: Thanks so much for Drew Carey for the free t-shirts.

>>Tom: Decorum just left the building.

>>Drew: I don't know what sizes they are so, here I'll tell you what

>>Molly: Ok after the t-shirt tossing, just so you know Tom and I are headed down to the other end of the convention center for the next big thing super session. Natalie and Brian are gonna take you the rest of the way out with this show. Make sure you catch that, there you go

>>Tom: No biting

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>>187 episodes

>>You changed my life

>>And countless cases

>>There is always a clue

>>CSI's Gil Grissom is leaving Las Vegas forever.

>>People lie, Professor. The only thing we can count on is the evidence. The MO of a killer is usually targets a couple.

>>That's definitely our guy.

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>>This is what we live for. We need all the good brains we can find.

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>>Brian: Alright guys, it looks like that we are back right now, right?

>>Natalie: I believe we are back. Welcome back to CNET Live, do not adjust your screen, I'm not Molly Wood and this is not Tom Merritt. We are and this is not Drew Carey either.

>>Brian: You guys can hear me now, right. Ok now so what we have basically going on is Tom and Molly, they left to do the next big thing show. You'll be able to find it here in about an hour. I'm joined here with Natalie DelConte. How you doin girl?

>>Natalie: I'm good. I'm hanging in.

>>Brian: Alright and Mr. Rafe Needleman, how you doing?

>>Rafe: Good

>>Brian: Ok and we just wanted to, I know, you know what's funny? Drew Carey threw out these Price is Right t-shirts and I have not seen men, grown men fight like that and turn blush red, like little children.

>>Natalie: I know. You'd think it was Kuture [laughter] >Rafe: It's a swag here, this year's CES. Just not there

>>Natalie: You know there isn't a lot of swag and I was reading something about, I want to say six or seven months ago, about how at every show swag is the first thing to go when the economy is bad. Wasn't it last year they were giving away even Bluetooth headsets and things like that?

>>Rafe: Yeah if you were in the right place at the right time.

>>Natalie: I don't [sound cuts out] do you?

>>Rafe: No, I got a flashlight but it didn't have batteries.

>>Natalie: Oh

>>Rafe: Oh, swag fail

>>Natalie: [laughter] Swag fail

>>Brian: One thing I wanted to talk about is Natalie, you've been doing a lot of coverage, you know for the CBS early show

>>Natalie: Yes, woe

>>Brian: You've been all out there, what are some of the things that you've seen, that you know,

>>Natalie: Let's see, so yeah we're doing the CBS Early Show every day this week and we're bringing the best products that we can find so, you know, Pico projectors are huge. We're seeing those all over the place.

>>Rafe: Actually they're really tinny

>>Natalie: They're metaphorically huge, they're small. And I like the idea. I don't need a separate gadget to do that. I'm gonna wait until it's in the iPhone. And we got a look at the Sony Vaio and then we had a mind controlled game that Daniel Sever, my co-worker used.

>>Brian: Yeah, how does that work?

>>Natalie: Where you just think really hard and it makes the fan go and it floats this little ball. And it's really cool. We got it to work, yeah. So that's fun. I'm really into the mind control.

>>Rafe: I can feel it right now.

>>Brian: Well the big thing is that, Rafe, Palm just made an announcement with their new device and platform, can you talk about that? I have no information so I'll just drop it on you.

>>Rafe: Yeah, sure, this is Palm's, you know, Hail Mary pass because the last couple of years they've seen their market share erode to the iPhone and Blackberry so this new device, there's a hardware device, a phone called the Palm Pre, with a little line over the E

>>Natalie: Which is so funny cause they just launched the Palm Pro which they also said was gonna be the big deal, their next generation trio.

>>Rafe: They were fibbing because this is the big deal.

>>Natalie: This is it. This is the big deal.

>>Rafe: The big deal about this though, the hardware's nice but the really big deal is the OS. It's a brand new OS called Palm Web OS and basically it's a whole new way to interact with the Palm. And it does some really cool things. First of all it's a touch screen device with a slide out keyboard and its multi-touch

>>Brian: Does it slide out on the bottom?

>>Rafe: It slides out on the bottom and it looks really cool. It's kind of curved so even with the keyboard out it will fit nice against your face.

>>Natalie: Yeah

>>Brian: What's the appeal scale on 1 to 10 cause you know Palms not super sexy but what do you think?

>>Rafe: Compared to who?

>>Brian: Compared it to anything you feel.

>>Natalie: Ok let's put it on the spectrum then, we've got Android, we've got the iPhone, we've got Window's Mobile and now we've got this new operating system so let's compare it realistically.

>>Rafe: On the full scale the phone, I would say is probably almost up there with the iPhone.

>>Brian: Really

>>Rafe: Yeah, it's not quite as seamless because the iPhone gives up a lot though to be seamless but it's not as near as clunky as say the T-mobile Android phone or the Storm. I mean, don't get me started on the Storm.

>>Natalie: Oh no, me neither.

>>Brian: What are some other characteristics or features that the Pre have that kind of sit out or made it a little different?

>>Rafe: The thing I really like about the Pre and the web OS is that the operating system you buy is really respectful of the way we work. Unlike the iPhone which has you opening and closing apps all the time to go do this or go do that, with the Pre you kind of make a card out of your app and move it over to the side and bring up your other one. And you can multi-task between apps.

>>Brian: Always running, right?

>>Rafe: They stay, I don't know if they're technically always running but they kind of stay accessible to you. The other thing about it that I really like is that it combines multiple accounts. If you have a Facebook and a Gmail and an exchange account, it will combine the calendars into one, it will combine the address books and the email and the IM's into one interface so

>>Natalie: How does it do that? With like a MobileMe type application?

>>Rafe: It does it on the phone. So when you're looking at, for example say I'm doing an IM with you on AIM and then you leave your computer and you go to your phone. So now I want to do SMS with you. So I'm on my Palm phone but you're moving from device to device

>>Natalie: Right. I'm sorry I just kicked you. [laughter] I didn't mean to, go ahead.

>>Rafe: So what it does is you can kind of change modalities but the conversation stays in the window, you just change the channel that we're conversing in. So this is the way I think I mean

>>Natalie: And you need to manage that by an address book that has all of my information in it, that's how that works? >Rafe: Yeah, the address book is what keeps track of your multiple ID's and it will import and work directly with say your Facebook address book as well as your Gmail address book. So it works with them all together.

>>Natalie: I like it.

>>Rafe: It's a really slick device. Should be out, we think mid year. Pricing hasn't been announced. Here's one thing you'll like, stereo Bluetooth

>>Brian: Well there you go

>>Natalie: There you go

>>Brian: And do you think it's really kind of bringing their name back into the conversation with what they just released?

>>Rafe: It could. I think it's a really good device. Now here's the thing they have goin for them. Sprint, it's gonna be released on Sprint and every carrier needs their marquee phone, their exclu, right. T-mobile has the android, AT&T has the iPhone and now Sprint

>>Natalie: LG has the blackberry

>>Rafe: Sprints a carrier, carriers so

>>Natalie: I meant Verizon but yes

>>Rafe: Verizon, right exactly

>>Natalie: I'm sorry. I've been up since 2:00, 2:00 am [laughter]

>>Rafe: So every carrier needs their marquee device and bow Sprint has this one. So

>>Natalie: Well don't you think with the Samsung was Sprint's

>>Brian: The Instinct, she's talking about

>>Natalie: Yeah the instinct

>>Rafe: Yeah but it doesn't have the ecosystem that a Palm device will with the developers they can bring in. A Palm is gonna work with Amazon for their music store, you know, so they'll stream or even buy music on Amazon.

>>Natalie: And maybe video from On Demand, Amazon On Demand?

>>Rafe: We don't know yet about video. But I would assume.

>>Brian: Ok well it sounds really good. Sounds like pretty exciting stuff.

>>Natalie: Podcast, CNET TV podcast.

>>Brian: Yeah, maybe

>>Rafe: If it doesn't have podcast it's a total failure, [laughter] that's what I'm saying.

>>Brian: Ok guys, we're gonna change gears a little bit from Smartphone's to HDTV's and I've been looking at a whole bunch of these things in the last 24 hours including a very thin one, as thin as a 8 millimeters, from Panasonic and a very cool 27-inch OLED from Sony so let's check it out. [music] What's up? Brian Tong here with CNET at CES 2009 with a first look at the 27-inch OLED TV from Sony. It's right there behind me, dead center. I'm surrounded with a bunch of these. And the best way I can describe the image quality is that it really makes HD look even better than HD. It has a contrast ratio of over 1 million to 1. The color reproduction is over 100 percent versus NTSC video. The stuff is crazy. Also the 27-inch display is the less than 10 millimeters thin so check it out. Another great first look with CNET of the Sony OLED 27-inch TV.

>>Natalie: [laughter] That's great [sound cutting out] personally

>>Brian: You know it. Have you guys really had a chance to look at OLED TV's that much? You know, I'm just throwing it out there.

>>Natalie: A little, no I mean I've had the 11-inch in my office for a while but, yeah, I was definitely looking forward to them getting better.

>>Rafe: You have the Sony 11-inch in your office?

>>Natalie: I borrowed it for the Early Show.

>>Rafe: Oh

>>Natalie: I don't have it actually running. I don't own it.

>>Rafe: It's like this. I mean it's a lot of money to pay for a little tinny flat screen.

>>Natalie: Well yeah they're

>>Brian: $2499 bucks for an 11-inch screen. But it does, the image quality, you've seen nothing like it. Now what's your take on OLED TV's?

>>Rafe: I think they look great. I've seen them and they look fantastic. I saw the Mitsubishi Laser TV last night and that's big. That's not like the little TV's right now which are little. It's a big like 52, 60-inch TV but the cool thing about it, first of all they look great. And secondly they take like one fifth of power of like a LCD or a plasma. So grant it at the moment you have to pay like $80,000 to get the TV to save $60 bucks a year but when the price comes down these laser production TV's, I think they're really cool.

>>Brian: Yeah, I got a chance to see that last year at CES, they previewed the laser TV and so now they're finally here. Ok, Rafe, you want to talk to us or set us up for this thing, you have Yahoo connected TV that you want to talk about.

>>Rafe: So Yahoo is launching a platform for Widgets to go to your TV and I checked it out last night at an event and check it out.

>>Brian: Alright, cool.

>>Rafe: Here's the video. [music] Hi this is Rafe Needleman at CES in Las Vegas [background noise] taking a look at the Yahoo connected TV. There's a new initiative by Yahoo to put their Widget engine on TV's everywhere. Yahoo has announced partnerships with Samsung, Sony, Vizio, LG and Toshiba to put this system which puts Yahoo widgets on your TV in front of your display. The idea is that you're watching a TV show and you want to see weather, you want to see sports scores, stock quotes, a twitter feed, Flicker on eBay, Yahoo, whatever, you hit a little Widget button on your remote, select your Widget and it pops up over the screen in front of you. It's really handy for multitaskers who want to watch more than one thing at a time. Now a couple of things about this. It's not out yet, it will be out in March and it's not connected to the TV content. It's still really cool but if you want a Widget to pop up when something happens related to what's on TV like somebody scores a touchdown, that's not here yet. However they are working with companies like EBay and Amazon to pop up widgets when something that matters to you happens like you're about to lose an auction. It looks pretty cool if you don't mind watching several things at once. Look for it in the stores in March in a lot of TV's or so they say. This is Rafe Needleman at CBS news. [ Music ]

>>Natalie: Alright, cool widget. So do you want that? Is that something that you'll actually use? Cause I have Verizon files and we have widgets, we already have widgets on Verizon file but no, I don't use them.

>>Brian: They can be annoying, right?

>>Natalie: They don't play video, I mean these are really, really basic weather, stock, that kind of widgets.

>>Rafe: Yeah, well this is an open platform so people will be able to write widgets for their TV. Now the question is, you asked me do I want this. No, I'm old and I don't multitask like that. [laughter] I want to watch it on TV.

>>Brian: You're not old Rafe. It's all about how you think man.

>>Rafe: Well I think one screen, one app [laughter] is enough for me, thank you very much.

>>Natalie: You need to go back to DOS.

>>Rafe: But let me tell you something, people who are like news junkies, weather junkies, sports junkies, this is cool.

>>Brian: Ok, I could tell you that if you've ever seen Asian news and they have like a stock ticker and like text over here and text on top, that's who it's for. It's not for me. It's not for me.

>>Natalie: It's for schizophrenic people. But I like that you can get to your social networks from there. I mean everything that we're seeing here is a convergence between TV and computer and computer and TV. They're goin this way and eventually they're gonna

>>Rafe: Yeah, I will tell you this. I would love to see a twitter feed on my TV because that's like my crack, is twitter. So watching twitter while I'm watching CSI or something, I'd like that.

>>Natalie: Yeah

>>Brian: Well the thing about this is all these TV's that are out on the floor now, they're all having this network capability and a lot of companies are pushing this widget thing so we'll really see if people jump on to this or it just becomes a feature that no one really uses.

>>Rafe: One of the things they did say to me about this is that the cost to put this in TV assuming it already has a network activity, is less, next to nothing. So we're gonna see it in TV's regardless. It's not a high end feature. It's just a question of do people turn it on and use it.

>>Natalie: And they're using the Intel home media processor but only certain TV's right. And other TV's and other manufacturers are using, what is the other processor? I know it's a big announcement from Intel.

>>Rafe: It's not a lot of computing overhead to do this so it could run on basically anything.

>>Natalie: But, ok, here's the question. Is it a lot of profitability potential for Yahoo cause they're selling ads around it, do you think that?

>>Rafe: They said we're going to tell you about the monetization later. [laughter] So the ads will come, I'm sure.

>>Brian: Alright guys, thanks for all that. We're gonna take a short break so check it out and we will return. ^M01:11:20 [ Silence ] ^M01:11:26 [ Music ] ^M01:11:31

>>[background laughing] When the biggest stars meet the biggest laughs, they come to Dave. The Late Show with David Letterman.

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>>Moaning?

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>>Ok, that is sick. [ Music ]

>>Natalie: Welcome back to CNET Live. We're here with the one and only Brian Tong

>>Brian: Wow that's really special

>>Natalie: And the one and only Rafe Needleman and I am the one and only Natalie DelConte which is not all that exciting. Someone just twittered me that they think that I'm not that interesting in real life.

>>Rafe: Ahh, where, I'm unfollowing them right now.

>>Natalie: Ok, unfollow them post haste. Anyway we are about to show you a video of Ludacris whom I was invited to meet yesterday. He had this private listening session over in his room in the Venetian and actually I'll prove to you that I'm not that fun in real life. I had to ask Brian before I left [laughter] I was like, name me some Ludacris songs. So anyway the reason that he's doing this is because he has this new album that he launched in high definition surround sound in cahoots with Monster. Now there are other high definition surround sound albums. This is the first rap video, rap album that comes in high definition surround sound. And someone like me who has really terrible hearing could even hear the difference. So let's roll the video.

>>Brian: Alright

>>Natalie: And see what you think. ^M01:13:44 [ Music ] ^M01:13:51

>>Hi I'm Natalie DelConte and we're here in the Venetian in Las Vegas where we've been invited to a private listening session by the rapper Ludacris. [music] He's just launched his first album in high definition surround sound and he's invited us to listen to it and talk about it.

>>This new CD, Theatre of the Mind, kind of a conceptual album. Every song is based off of movies and television so you know, it has certain themes to it and you have co-stars instead of features, that's what I say. So it's a lot of different people that you wouldn't normally find on a rap album, like Chris Rock is on a song called Everybody Hates Chris.

>>We got together and I said, Lude, why don't we do this high definition surround so we opened, it opens up the music a little different from [inaudible] And the work is phenomenal. I had a great time mixing it because it was so complex, so many things going on in this album. [music]

>>Natalie: Now how involved were you in actually choreographing the high definition in the surround sound?

>>You know he's very experienced and is very and he's been doing this for a while and I first heard HD with him you know we were listening to a different genre of music and I told him that's how I wanted my sound to be. We have a lot of things that we're working on with Monster Cable, some I can't really talk about it right now but we will definitely be announcing soon but I definitely love the HDS and me being the first rapper to have an album in HDS I want to continue doing that so you can look for more HDS projects coming from Disturbing the Peace and Ludacris and Monster Cable. ^M01:15:34 [ Music ] ^M01:15:40

>>Natalie: I would like to let you know I was kidding about that head butt at the bottom, at the end.

>>Brian: Were you told to head butt like that?

>>Natalie: Yeah, I was laughing about it. You can't really tell.

>>Rafe: I was convinced. That was convincing.

>>Natalie: So let's talk about, that I was feeling it? Maybe I was feeling it a little.

>>Brian: But did it sound good, like you know how did it really impact you?

>>Natalie: It does sound good. I have to say that's not music [laughter] that moves me [laughter]

>>Brian: Those were some like baby makin tunes, did you hear that? [singing]

>>Natalie: And it was a little crude to, you know, some language there

>>Brian: Oh

>>Rafe: It wasn't Natalie approved.

>>Natalie: It was not Natalie or CNET TV approved. [laughter] But no you definitely can hear it. Especially with the really high quality speakers and you can hear different beats coming from different areas and you know I'm sure that if I had a tricked out Impala with you know really great speakers that I could roll with it but

>>Rafe: Lean with it. I got a high definition audio DVD, back when they were still making those, of Joni Mitchell, is that more your speed?

>>Natalie: No, I don't really [laughter] listen to anything anyone would be interested in, in any capacity. But yes please tell us about the experience.

>>Rafe: Oh no well the thing about these, my question is do you need like new hardware to listen to this high definition audio?

>>Natalie: Yeah, I mean you can't just plug it in and your, you know, computer

>>Brian: The receiver has to at least be able to decode it, I'm assuming.

>>Natalie: Right

>>Brian: Like your receiver has to at least be able to decode the signal for an HD audio signal so

>>Rafe: So if I got like a four year old stereo system I'm not gonna hear all the surround sound?

>>Natalie: No you probably won't, no. I mean this is really for the audio files. What was that?

>>Rafe: I said it's probably just as well.

>>Natalie: [laughter] Right. Are you feeling like you're missing out on something?

>>Rafe: I just don't, yeah

>>Brian: The soothing beats of Ludacris, how much, did they say how much the disc would actually cost?

>>Natalie: The disc? I mean no, it doesn't cost anymore than a regular DVD.

>>Brian: Oh it's just a bonus feature.

>>Natalie: It is and there's also a Blu-ray feature with other bonus things, yeah it comes in a Blu-ray.

>>Rafe: I wonder if they can transmit this stuff, you kicked me again by the way,

>>Natalie: I'm sorry, under the table.

>>Rafe: [laughter] Over like MP3's. I mean if you can do downloads of high definition audio and that's where we're going

>>Natalie: I don't think you can. And I ask him do you think that this is gonna prevent piracy and he's like that's part of my goal. You know he's like you know if you steal something

>>Brian: He wants to make more money of course its part of the goal.

>>Natalie: You never get the original quality so don't steal my music. He was pretty, you know, kind of under spoken but when I asked him about piracy his eyes just started to glare.

>>Brian: His chain can't be as big and that's the problem.

>>Rafe: You would know, look at that, look at that man.

>>Brian: Whatever [laughter] Ok now we're here at CES. We've been here for the first day. Are there things that you guys want to see or maybe haven't seen or maybe expect to see on the show floor?

>>Rafe: I haven't been out there yet. I want to see, well you know what I'm really am liking seeing right now is all these new operating systems, you know, Windows 7, the web OS, we're hearing rumors about Android's on laptop, Androids, Android DOS. I'd like to see Androids as well. I always like to see Androids.

>>Brian: I'm anti that stuff dude

>>Natalie: Sandbox, yeah, all of that stuff.

>>Rafe: The rise of Netbooks, pretty cool stuff, yeah.

>>Natalie: I don't think we thought that that was coming when we were here last year. We didn't see that being such a big deal. I thought the tablets were still going somewhere because we had just had the NA10, the Nokia NA10 so I thought maybe we would go that way.

>>Brian: People still aren't using tablets, you know. They've tried by no one's using them. I ain't using them.

>>Natalie: No, no, I looked at that Clarion MiND yesterday and I was like, ok but why? [laughter] It's too expensive to really.

>>Rafe: Well that's a cool, the car thing, the Clarion MiND

>>Natalie: The Clarion MiND, yeah

>>Rafe: I did see that Mindflex, that Mattel game with the ping pong ball

>>Natalie: Yeah, we had that on the early show today.

>>Rafe: I talked to those guys the other day and I was asking them like, ok so your brain basically controls one thing, the fan. How about controlling other things like so you can drive or something? The guy said to me, we're always looking for new ways to control things. And he was talking about maybe in the future we'll have games that respond not to concentration but to things like fear or happiness

>>Brian: Well Natalie on Buzz Aloud was saying she was going to be able to control my mind which that still yet to happen.

>>Natalie: I already can. One 60 minutes there was that piece about controlling or reading people's minds so if we can read someone's mind you certainly could translate that into

>>Brian: I can read minds, I can tell you that.

>>Natalie: I mean without being an Xman, scientifically.

>>Brian: Well you guys, thanks for coming out. That's gonna do it for this addition of CNET Live. Be sure to stay here and keep it locked on CNETTV.com because at 3:00 pm the next big thing and we'll stream it live. It's about life in the cloud, how will it happen, will it happen, tune in to find out CNET Live from CES. We'll be back here tomorrow for another special 90 minute episode and as always you can find all our CES coverage at CES.CNET.com. Rafe, Natalie, thanks for hanging out.

>>Natalie: No problem.

>>Rafe: Thanks

>>Brian: Alright, we'll see you tomorrow guys. Later. ^M01:20:39 [ Music ] ^M01:20:49

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