The 404 254: Where we all wish we were at the OTHER conference Video

The 404 254: Where we all wish we were at the OTHER conference Video Transcript

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>>[Background music] What's going on everyone? It's the 404 Live from CN 2009. I'm Jeff Bakalar.

>>[Background music] I'm Wilson Tang.

>>[Background music] And I'm Justin Yu.

>>[Background music] And this is the show where we wish we were at the other conference.

>>[Background music] That's right.

>>[Background music] Oh yeah.

>>Now we're going to, we're going to use the acronym version of that conference. It's the AND, and...

>>Actually I'm getting a pretty nasty scare from the ED, but...

>>No, come on, that's fine...

>>She just walked behind us.

>>She's like I just came back from there.

>>Yeah...

>>Joining us...

>>No, go ahead, go ahead.

>>Joining us for the first half of our show today, Erika. What's going on Erika? How are you enjoying the show?

>>Way too much is going on, but...

>>Really, you...

>>That's my job.

>>Look very relaxed though.

>>No I sort of hit a wall.

>>Really.

>>Today, but...

>>Oh really. Around four or four thirty?

>>Yeah, I'm just sort of propped, propped up here. It's been a busy show.

>>Erika's the editor of our CNET blog Crave. You can check that our at Crave.CNET.com.

>>Yeah.

>>That's where you can check it out.

>>Yes.

>>You do a fantastic job. You're doing a fantastic job today as well.

>>Thank you.

>>Was there a half...

>>I appreciate your support.

>>Was there a half chance to go check out the other conference now that we're on the subject?

>>No.

>>No? You didn't even accidently...

>>Not really my thing.

>>There's a, there's a weird overlap where you...

>>Oh yeah.

>>Run into people.

>>I've got to look, a nice look...

>>It's actually kind of near the press room.

>>Yeah, exactly.

>>Oddly enough.

>>I was going to say, I've got a nice little segue into our next story. But I do have to say, so I went to the Venetian today check out the Palm Tree, which we'll talk about in a second.

>>Yes.

>>But on the way out, I did not realize that this other conference was...

>>Oh come...

>>There.

>>You've been talking about that conference for the past month. Now don't try to get on the air and say that you didn't know.

>>And don't try to act like you don't have a pass to go to the conference.

>>I saw you in the bushes. I could see your eyes coming out of the bushes next to that hotel.

>>Well I, I knew something was up when I walked into the hotel and there were...

>>Yeah, go ahead, spit it out. Spit it out.

>>You can say it. This is Vegas baby...

>>Yeah, anything goes.

>>We're markedly different than CES.

>>No you know what's interesting is when you magically had to leave at three p.m. yesterday...

>>Yeah.

>>Go check out something else. That's what's amazing. But let's get, let's get serious for a second. Let's talk about Palm.

>>Palm today released the pre-phone, right. Now first of all I have no idea, why is it called the pre?

>>Because it's before...

>>Before what...

>>Before the next one.

>>Right.

>>And Erika you had a chance to go check out that, that palm right?

>>No, no, no. I was actually doing something else, but...

>>Okay.

>>I was covering the Sony Keynote this morning.

>>Right.

>>Overlapping.

>>So that, make sure we talk about that next.

>>Okay.

>>Okay, but Palm, what do you think?

>>So, it's touch screen phone.

>>Right.

>>But it's also got the slide out keyboard which you know, for a lot of people, very exciting.

>>Yeah.

>>I think they called, I think what they said was they called the virtual keyboard kind of cheesy. Now you have one...

>>Yeah.

>>Of those virtual keyboards for [inaudible].

>>They are cheesy, they don't work.

>>But Justin has his own iPhone.

>>Maybe you'll be interested in this.

>>I might pick one up.

>>Yeah.

>>Yeah.

>>So apparently it's a little bit smaller.

>>Right.

>>Than the iPhone. And it's got wire, you know, it's wireless, sort of Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, it's on Sprint. We don't know what the price is yet though.

>>That's good, that's looks good.

>>So, well and until you know the price.

>>That's fine.

>>It's a very price sensitive market right now.

>>It could be a $400 phone.

>>It's fine.

>>Nobody knows okay.

>>Now did you buy any Palm stock today?

>>I did not.

>>No.

>>But I am a lowly reporter, so...

>>There's a little code of ethics maybe there.

>>But a lot of people did. Apparently since the Palm, since Palm announced the Pre, stock has jumped to 34.85%. So I think maybe we should make a trip to...

>>I have my...

>>Yahoo for that.

>>Yeah, I actually will be back in a second.

>>Yeah.

>>I'm going to go take care of some business.

>>Stockbroker on the phone.

>>But you, so you didn't attend the Palm press conference, but you did attend the Sony one?

>>Yeah, the CEO...

>>A lot of celebrities right?

>>Yeah...

>>So...

>>The thing about Sony, they have a lot of connections and lots of other industries besides just technology, right.

>>Yeah.

>>So who was there?

>>So...

>>Yeah.

>>Oh, to, before, so Howard Stringer, the CEO of Sony. And before he even came out Tom Hanks walks out.

>>No.

>>No.

>>Tom Hanks was here?

>>Tom Hanks was here.

>>I was in a trailer and Tom Hanks was here.

>>And, and the best thing...

>>We've been blogging...

>>And the best part was he completely stole the show.

>>Of course he did, he's Tom Hanks.

>>Right.

>>So he had like this whole like scripted thing, where he's supposed to talk about, you know, the, how much he likes cameras, by Sony. How much he likes computers by Sony. He's kind of just doing this wink, wink thing.

>>Yeah.

>>And I'm not sure if Sony was actually glad that they...

>>He could have read...

>>Invited him.

>>The Phonebook there.

>>But he was hilarious.

>>Yeah.

>>He took, he completely stole the show.

>>That's amazing.

>>Yeah.

>>All right. So Tom Hanks, you really can't top that. Who else was there?

>>So Tom Hanks was there. And then he brought, and also John Latheter [assumed spelling] who is the head of Pixar was there.

>>Oh right on.

>>Nice.

>>He was talking about Blue ray. And then, Jeffrey Achtenberg was there to talk about 3D.

>>The K, from SKG.

>>Yes.

>>[Inaudible], right, though he...

>>So DreamWorks animation, they make all, starting this year I think they're going to make all their animated movies in 3D, so...

>>Oh way.

>>And Sony's really pushing 3D, so that's why I'm saying.

>>3Ds everywhere.

>>I know. And it's interesting because, so, I'm trying to think if I have the glasses. This isn't exactly a good radio show to show...

>>No that's fine.

>>To show the glasses.

>>Yeah, but I've...

>>But...

>>What do you think about 3D?

>>Well...

>>You got 3D, you down with this whole 3D thing? Yeah?

>>Yeah.

>>This guy's clapping. He's just happy to be in 3D right now.

>>Here's my theory. I'm comfortable with the dimensions I already occupy, I don't know.

>>Well this is my theory. Like, now that like the economy's going in the crapper and everything like that.

>>Yeah.

>>You got to have a good reason to spend $15 at the movie theaters.

>>That's right.

>>It's not an extra dimension that's making me spend all that money.

>>These are the glasses right here.

>>So the best part is they're not like the lame paper glasses anymore.

>>Right.

>>No, they're the lame round framed glasses.

>>But you still have to wear glasses in a movie theater.

>>Right.

>>Yeah.

>>I don't know. Not my cup of tea.

>>But you get to keep them apparently. There's not like a bin outside where you have to put them in?

>>There may have been and maybe I was just so rushed I had to go file my story I didn't pay attention. I don't know.

>>So you stole them things.

>>So why don't you put those on, show us...

>>Yeah...

>>How fashionable you look.

>>Okay if this gets tangled...

>>They look like [inaudible].

>>I want to get a response from our, what do you think? Now, not bad.

>>Pretty good.

>>That's a nice golf clap we've got there.

>>Whoa. Whoa.

>>That doesn't work like that.

>>All right. Let's move along.

>>Wait.

>>Whoa, whoa, whoa.

>>What was Sony announcing?

>>3D.

>>So, no, no, no.

>>Three of them.

>>He existed three dimensional.

>>They were just, they were just showing kind of like a demo technology. They showed a clip of the Orange Bowl, you know from last week, or whatever. And it was cool. You kind of got to see the players kind of popping out of the screen. And we saw a clip of, what was it, or it was a Pixar, it was a short Pixar film that was in 3D.

>>Am I the only one that has no desire for any of this?

>>Well you know what movie I keep on seeing, like previews for is My Bloody Valentine.

>>Right.

>>3D.

>>Right.

>>That's horrifying.

>>That [inaudible] coming out at you.

>>I don't understand.

>>It doesn't look interesting at all. I don't even know what the plot is...

>>Yeah.

>>I just know people die and...

>>Just an ax coming at you. That's what the plot of that movie is.

>>Over and over again.

>>So there's a lot been going on. USA, USA Today is covering CS as well as we all are.

>>Right.

>>And supposedly they said in one of the articles that a theme going on in CS is like aging. Like...

>>Aging?

>>[Inaudible].

>>I think this is true. Because this morning I get up and I turn on MSNBC and the first thing I see is this news piece about old people using technology.

>>Yeah.

>>And...

>>You know if my grandma was here, do you know what would happen? She'd probably be in the claw machine... For my grandma we need something like that.

>>Unbelievable.

>>But...

>>They had a Bluetooth, like a diabetes blood checking thing, what do you call it?

>>No they did not.

>>Yeah, like it would, you would prick your finger and it bluetoothed all of the blood into the...

>>Okay. Sure.

>>Wow is that a huge market for that?

>>[Inaudible] you buy your...

>>Or there was another product, I think we did a first look video on and it was a plant like a check up thing. Like you stuck it into the soil and it told you whether it needed water, or...

>>Right.

>>Or fertilizer, or...

>>What, how is that aging?

>>Yeah how is that, because I guess old people take care of plants.

>>Only old people grow plants.

>>Just old people.

>>All right.

>>They're lonely.

>>The things you learn in the 404.

>>Young people don't know what the environment is I think that's what the case is.

>>No, no cucumbers grow on trees right?

>>So, so, okay, so aging is a theme. All right. I'm okay with that. There's something happening in a month that's going to literally freak out half the country.

>>Right.

>>And that is, that is our little digital transition. Oh my...

>>Now I think this is hilarious.

>>It's Y2K all over again, I'm telling you.

>>That's happening in mid-February right?

>>February 15th.

>>That's mid-February, yeah.

>>Oh my gosh. I'm telling you, the world is going to implode.

>>Well Southern Florida will implode.

>>It'll fall off the states, it'll just go black.

>>But, so do you have any older relatives that have asked you about, Erika how do I get TV?

>>Actually no. My grandparents have a TiVo.

>>Oh wow.

>>Yeah.

>>Whoa.

>>Yeah.

>>Did you buy that for them, or did they just go out on their own?

>>My parents, my parents got it for my grandparents.

>>Whoa.

>>Did you have to set it up for them?

>>My boyfriend did, yes.

>>Oh, okay.

>>And he's my grandma's hero, because he was able to finagle all the little wires into the TV.

>>Yeah, my grandma's kind of hip. She's got cable, that's good enough.

>>Yeah. Cable.

>>It's a step in the right direction.

>>But what's she going to do when those rabbit ears don't do anything for her TV anymore?

>>No she doesn't have rabbit ears, she's got the cable box.

>>She has the cable box, okay?

>>Yeah, she's living in the future man. What about any older relatives that are...?

>>Well my grandparents all live in the a different side of the world, so I don't even...

>>Okay, yes...

>>[Inaudible].

>>All right. Well that's not even...

>>Well, but I imagine come February 18th...

>>Yeah.

>>You'll get a lot of phone calls.

>>Oh forget it.

>>Yeah.

>>Turning off my phone that day. My aunts, uncle or something...

>>Yeah.

>>You're not a very good [inaudible].

>>No, right...

>>[Inaudible].

>>I'm going to be busy that day. I'm just going to be laughing that day. Ratings for the Price is Right are going to plummet.

>>Drew Carey better watch out.

>>The way I feel...

>>He might not have a job after February 18th.

>>[Inaudible], I mean they're like, my grandson works at CNET, he should be able to help me. And you're like, no, not...

>>No my grandma's fine, it's cool, she's all set.

>>Yeah, this guy, worst grandson ever.

>>No.

>>Shut up grandma.

>>No.

>>The solution to the problem was that they were supposed to be issuing these coupons, or...

>>Right like a $40 voucher or something.

>>For the converter box.

>>For the converter box. Right.

>>Right.

>>Yeah. Right that's not going over to the...

>>I had read somewhere that weren't these coupons, like they're gone.

>>Yeah.

>>Like the one for the...

>>I think they're rationing them.

>>They're rationing.

>>Yeah, so...

>>Oh okay.

>>So like you got to get...

>>So only certain old people get to live.

>>Them now or else, you're going to be on a wait... No, no, I think, I think you...

>>Wow.

>>Okay.

>>Some people can survive without television sometimes.

>>Believe it or not.

>>Jesus. All right, we're going to take a quick break. Erika thank you so much for hanging out.

>>Sure.

>>Telling us what you think of the show so far, really appreciate it.

>>Enjoy the rest of your stay here.

>>Yeah.

>>Try to check out the other conference. Because I heard it's pretty good.

>>Oh yeah.

>>I don't know, that's just...

>>You got to come back, you got to...

>>That's just me, that's...

>>I think I've got enough work at this one.

>>Fair enough.

>>Thank you.

>>All right.

>>You might get some recruitment.

>>Careful...

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>>They're obscene.

>>Raunchy.

>>Asinine.

>>What's everyone talking about?

>>Jeff Bagalar.

>>Wilson Tang.

>>Justin Yu, let's take off our pants.

>>I love it.

>>It's the only thing I'll listen too.

>>Holy crap, Wilson Tang make sense of it all please.

>>You know me like I talk about myself at least a little bit...

>>Right...

>>[Inaudible].

>>Or somebody you went to college with.

>>Or somebody I went to college with.

>>Right.

>>Fair enough.

>>Wow, pathetic.

>>Weird.

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>>[Background music] Hey welcome back. It's the 404 at CS 2009. We're live from the CNET stage in day one at CS.

>>How tired are you guys?

>>I'm exhausted.

>>What time did you wake up this morning?

>>I don't even know, like seven.

>>Did you even go to bed last night?

>>No, black jack CES...

>>Yeah this guy texted me at like four in the morning. He's like you got to come down here, black jack is off the hook.

>>I'm like do you, do you double down on ten?

>>Yeah.

>>Yeah it was bad, I don't know man.

>>Oh man.

>>Gamble, anyone gamble a lot while you're here?

>>No, no.

>>No. Not. All right. That is...

>>Thank you guys.

>>Disappointing on a level...

>>It's good radio right there.

>>Never before seen. All right, but anyway.

>>No I walked in to the CNET stage earlier, I saw you rocking out on what looked like a pretty bad ass guitar.

>>It was bad ass and that's exactly the words I'm using to describe it.

>>What was it all about?

>>So, well everyone knows gaming at CES is non-existent. In fact I want to start a revolution. I want to have the controller logo, eliminated fro CES. Like they have like an iPod, they have like a little music note or something.

>>Right.

>>I want the controller taken out.

>>Just gone.

>>Done.

>>Gone, because it's barely anything.

>>They should, what were they talking about yesterday, we spatula. They should put that on there.

>>Yeah there's plenty of we spatulas, and like we light sabers.

>>How many light bulbs...

>>Yeah.

>>Exactly.

>>Take it and...

>>How many of those, those do you really need incidentally.

>>I actually saw a rock band exhibit in there though.

>>Yeah, that's...

>>There were a couple, there were a couple dorks rocking out so that's...

>>Dorks?

>>Yeah.

>>Oh come on, whoa.

>>Come on. You know me. I've been...

>>What's that?

>>Known to rock out.

>>SanDisk was doing the rock band.

>>Oh no it was great. It was great.

>>He, he just called you a dork, man.

>>No. I said other dorks. You're a dorkette, it's different.

>>Feel free to throw things.

>>Yeah that's right. No, but I saw people rocking out to it. And then I, and then you had a guitar on stage.

>>Yeah, what I had was a company Dreamgear I believe is the name of the company. Makes a replica, this is ridiculous. PC rich, big metal guitar manufacturer. They have like a bunch of metal bands signed up on their product. They have an exact replica of the BC Rich War Beast for rock band, for guitar hero.

>>It's huge too.

>>And for, what's the other...

>>Exactly, yeah.

>>The rock revolution.

>>It's the size of this table.

>>No it's not that big. But yeah, but it, it's amazing. And the weight is really, really nice. It feels like you're actually holding a real guitar.

>>The buttons click better than the original...

>>I like how it, I like how it feels. It's much more clickier. It feels like you actually...

>>So it has buttons, not like strings, you know...

>>No, that's next, that's rock band three.

>>That's rock band three?

>>Strings.

>>A real guitar.

>>It's just going to be rock band three colon, strings. That's what it's going to be. I can't wait for that.

>>All right. So let's talk more about some gaming things. I don't know if anyone knows this, but apparently, and guys play video games here, anyone fan of video games?

>>Yeah.

>>Of course. Don't be shy, raise your hands absolutely. Apparently, NES, everyone knows what Nintendo Entertainment is the original 1985 council, right.

>>Very original council.

>>Supposedly the patent is up.

>>What?

>>What?

>>And now it's like a free for all. And everyone's making their own NES portable...

>>I thought they were already doing these so...

>>Everything looks like an NES gaming system?

>>No, it's not even that, because you don't need the huge thing anymore. I was, it was like a handheld thing and they had [inaudible] sticking out of it.

>>That's, that's legal now?

>>That's the first thing, I said sir you're breaking the law, clearly. You're ripping off a patent. He's like...

>>You were on the phone with the cops.

>>He's like, no, he's like no, they lifted it, the patent's lifted, it's a free for all. I said there's no way it's legal. He's like, I think it is.

>>You can copy, people can copy the game council?

>>No, no, you still need your original Nintendo cartridge.

>>Okay.

>>You pop that in this little game boy looking device...

>>But they've hacked the NES, now anybody can make it.

>>Anyone can make. Dude it's not just NES, it was Super Nintendo, N Sega Genesis.

>>What?

>>I'm not, and here I...

>>You can have a time trouble [inaudible].

>>You should have seen me this morning. I got I early, I'm standing there at the booth.

>>Yeah.

>>I'm like, you guys are going to get caught.

>>You were legitimately worried about that.

>>There was police outside.

>>It's no joke, downstairs, south hall, there's a whole extra, all these things, and you know, it's like... It felt like I was in Manhattan.

>>That's pretty ridiculous.

>>A little [inaudible]. it was.

>>You know what this reminds me of in New York. Like you see these guys, like they have the fake game council that they can...

>>Yeah, oh right.

>>Plug in. But every time a cop walks by they stuff it in their shirt?

>>Oh yeah, yeah.

>>It wasn't like that though. They were out in the open with it. And I'm like, oh I'd like to talk about it. He's like, maybe, maybe not.

>>Meet me in Chinatown in New York, we'll talk about it.

>>I didn't know what to say.

>>All right, so the weirdest gadget of today...

>>Oh yeah.

>>CES.

>>Did you...

>>I was walking the floor, yeah. I saw some pretty weird stuff too. The worst one was an E cigarette.

>>Okay, wait, what?

>>A digital cigarette.

>>Cigarette.

>>Yeah.

>>Was it USB powered, what's going on?

>>Right.

>>Bluetooth enabled?

>>Wait, wait. Apparently their catching on in the U.K. more often. And they're trying to get them into the U.S...

>>You guys ever heard of it.

>>It lasts a little bit more...

>>A digital cigarette.

>>[Inaudible].

>>You saw...

>>Oh, it's digital cancer as well?

>>[Inaudible].

>>I remember, that...

>>The funny thing is that the kiosk is way in the back of the south hall.

>>All right.

>>You can barely see it.

>>It's behind an ashtray.

>>Yeah and actually just one person smoking it.

>>And that's a, God that's ridiculous.

>>But it's actually a plastic cigarette, you pack it with these cartridges that have like tobacco in them. But then you could, you suck it in. There's no smoke emitted, but you do get...

>>Well where's the fun in that?

>>The nicotine ingested into your system.

>>Digital nicotine.

>>So it's not to help you quit, it's just to help you smoke indoors. I don't understand it.

>>There you go.

>>Smokeless cigarette right, is that what you're trying to say?

>>I admit the...

>>What's that sir?

>>[Inaudible].

>>Oh, it's the healthy [inaudible].

>>Quit.

>>I don't know. I...

>>I think if, if you're plugging a cigarette into a computer, you have more problems than quitting smoking cigarettes.

>>Well I demoed it, and it didn't make me want to quit.

>>Right.

>>It made me want to quit.

>>Right.

>>It made me want to light up a few more actually.

>>Light up a few more.

>>Yeah.

>>Well there you go.

>>But it was pretty crazy though. It...

>>Was Phillip Morris back there? Who was, who was behind this?

>>Yeah.

>>A bunch of under aged children were actually selling it. I don't really know why. It was bizarre. But that was pretty weird. Did you guys see anything weird on the floor?

>>I seen a lot of people on segues.

>>A lot of people on segues.

>>Yeah.

>>Yeah.

>>I saw a lot of booth girls. You wanted to talk about that. Because you know...

>>Oh, yeah.

>>If they were lost.

>>Yeah. I mean you've been kind of huddled back there.

>>I've been spending most of my time back there.

>>Yeah.

>>I took a couple minutes, walked to the stage. But, I think the big thing was just the difference between the other conferences...

>>Right.

>>Booth things...

>>I don't know, I, I saw downstairs. There are some people who are just wearing things that are clearly inappropriate, right.

>>Were they at the wrong show, or...?

>>They might have. I said they might have gotten lost.

>>You know what's funny is watching some of these guys that go to the show, trying to act interested in the stuff that these girls are...

>>Yeah.

>>Yeah.

>>Selling. But they're...

>>Calculator...

>>But they're looking at this USB drive, they're not...

>>Wow, that's so interesting.

>>It's amazing. Sir, I'm up here.

>>Yeah, tell me more about it.

>>Yeah.

>>I'm actually holding it up here sir. But, no it's, it's really funny to just watch these people talking to them. I suggest you guys all do it.

>>Everyone make sure you, you check out some of the, some of the...

>>I think for our listeners, let's...

>>Yeah.

>>Put things in perspective too.

>>Sure, sure.

>>So there are what, 130,000 people here for the CES conference.

>>Right.

>>How much of that would you say...

>>Four and a half million, for the, for the...

>>Four and a half million for Aviant [assumed spelling]. But how much of the CES conference do you think are of the male variety?

>>90, 90...

>>Yeah.

>>Yeah, somewhere in the upper 90 percentile there.

>>Yeah. Any woman here has got to be on their guard, because...

>>Oh absolutely.

>>A hundred women, the numbers are against them.

>>Ten to one, absolutely.

>>You know who is here though is Natali Del Conte.

>>Oh yes.

>>Yes. She's a...

>>We need to discuss this.

>>She's a personality for CNET TV, if you guys don't know.

>>Right.

>>But apparently someone started a Twitter account called the Evil NDC.

>>That's our nickname, if you guys don't know, Natali Del Conte, we call her the NDC.

>>Right.

>>But yeah, with, with all the popularity of people hacking Twitter accounts lately, someone started the Evil NDC. Which is actually a fake Twitter account. And they're posting all...

>>Well there's...

>>This really weird, offensive stuff on her, someone...

>>Well you know [inaudible].

>>[Inaudible]. Someone told me it was a renegade 404. I think that might be right. Let's read off a few of these.

>>Some of these...

>>It's bad...

>>We might get kicked off the air...

>>Okay.

>>We might get, okay.

>>Immediately after reading all these.

>>Okay, Jason.

>>So bear with us.

>>You have your hand on the...

>>Get your finger on that button.

>>Okay, ready, go.

>>First one I read here is, well I'm finished killing puppies, now it's time to grab a drink and get back to the table.

>>I know Natali very well. She would never kill a puppy.

>>I've seen her kill three puppies. But I don't think she would...

>>Not in public, come on.

>>Publicize it.

>>Talk about it.

>>This is very bad. On behalf of the real 404, we want to apologize to Natali, for, for what our renegade...

>>For our, what our fans do.

>>This is not really here.

>>This is inappropriate.

>>Yeah.

>>Well, I see this other one. Then to Justin's room after the party?

>>Oh it's, well we just blew up Justin's fun.

>>Well ladies and gentlemen, Justin was planning on proposing to Natali Del Conte last year.

>>Is she listening to this right now?

>>Yeah.

>>I have the ring in my pocket.

>>Is she here?

>>I have a Cracker Jack box earlier.

>>Yeah.

>>And I had this ring in it. I don't know. If you guys listen to old 404 podcasts, you can check out a story we talked about where, I'm thinking about proposing to Natali Del Conte.

>>And she said yes.

>>Did she?

>>She pre, she said that you guys were going to...

>>You could get married in the lobby of the hotel.

>>We might seal the deal.

>>Yeah.

>>In Vegas. Isn't that the place to go and elope?

>>I know a place to do it.

>>A few people might have done that. But that, we will not talk about. Instead, we're going to finish today's show. Everyone who joined us today. Thank you very much. We appreciate you guys coming out. He's clapping, that means it's good.

>>Thank you.

>>Thanks everyone for coming out. We'll be back...

>>Chat room, thank you very much for joining us.

>>Yes, we have to acknowledge the chat room.

>>Tomorrow, same time, same place, we're going...

>>Right.

>>To give out some free stuff.

>>We might have a guest on.

>>Hopefully.

>>[Inaudible]. Hopefully.

>>We're working it. We're going to try, Brian Tong's going to join us.

>>Yeah.

>>Maybe if we're lucky Natali. I don't know, she might be mad at us.

>>I'm still crossing my fingers for Drew Carey.

>>Drew Carey.

>>It's going to happen.

>>I, I hope so.

>>We'll talk to, we'll have our people...

>>We'll see.

>>Talk to their people.

>>Wouldn't that be great.

>>By that I mean, I'm going to beg somebody for him to be on the show.

>>That's going to do it for us today at CES. Definitely come back tomorrow. We will have some more fun with your guys. And...

>>If you're here, stay here, we're going to be giving out prizes.

>>Yeah, some.

>>Oh you want, you wanted a piece, like I got to get a prize, I want surprises...

>>Yeah, like you owe me something for sitting through this.

>>There it is, there, there's the magic.

>>Yeah.

>>If you want to get in touch with us, you can always email us a V404@CNET.com. Follow us on Twitter, at V404, Face Book.

>>Leave us a voicemail, 1-866-404-CNET. If you're lucky enough, we're going to play your recorded voicemail on the show tomorrow. So do that for us. For now, I'm Jeff Bakalar.

>>I'm Wilson Tang.

>>And I'm Justin Yu.

>>It's the 404. We'll see you tomorrow Vegas, have a good one.

>>Yeah.

>>All right.

>>All right why not.

>>That's what I'm talking about. ^M00:21:28 [ Music ]